Karnamrita das
57, married
Sandy Ridge, North Carolina, Transnistria
Vaishnava, Teacher, Writer, Healer, Loafer

http://www.vaisnavafamilyresources.org

About me

I share my past in a very personal way, so you can better understand how I have come to Krishna. I used to share this story in a college World Religions class, because the professor thought it made a much better presentation, showing how devotees are real people.

Materially, or from the point of view of sociology or psychology, there are many reasons that might be given (externally), for why someone with my background would take up an "eastern religion". However, from the perspective of Bhagavad-gita, the unsuccessful yogi ( in this case Bhakit-yogi) takes birth in a situation that fosters the continuation of their spiritual path.

Please think about this as you read on, and also think about your own life, and how it may lead you to Krishna and self realization.

How should any of us evaluate our lives? What is good, what is bad? That depends on your beliefs about the meaning of life. If we are an aspiring devotee that changes our considerations of what is good karma or bad karma. Since the goal of life is self or God realization, then whoever is able to take to spiritual life is truly fortunate regardless of his material upbringing.

One of the points of telling my background, which could be construed as impious, is to demonstrate the power of Bhakti in transforming people's lives. A second point, already spoken about in the Gita verse, is that we can 't really engage seriously in Bhakti without some previous connection with in. Looked at from this perspective, my "impious" life growing up, was a way that Krishna allowed me try to fulfill material desires, become frustrated with that endeavor, and to be drawn to a spiritual solution to the problems of life.

Thinking of my life from my current perspective I can see that it wasn't much to look at materially---and spiritually there wasn't any hint that I would have any interest. However, as I mentioned, even reverses or apparent negatives can be good if they help our spiritual progress. Through the course of my sufferings and coming to take shelter of guru, Krishna and the devotees, I have changed much on my long journey of life.

I was born in Hollywood, California in June 1950, living first in Culver City, and then in Van Nuys until I was four. I spent my grade school years in San Francisco. My childhood was not a very happy one. I am sure I seemed "normal" enough to people, though it took the wisdom years of life and the knowledge of personal growth to understand my withdrawn nature was life denying, not life affirming. For a long time, even as a devotee, my past-- growing up in an abusive alcoholic family--was my identity and my excuse for not being successful.

Since then I have done much inner healing work, coming to the point of love and forgiveness to my parents. In addition my years of chanting and sadhana have affected me with a real change in my heart. I know my parents did the best they could with the resources they had.

The pain I endured growing up I now see as a great asset in so many ways. I am a better person because of it. My past life's unfinished spirituality placed me in a family in which I would be so unhappy, that I would be drawn to transcendence as the path to happiness.

Growing up in this painful childhood environment caused me to shut down emotionally and to give up my power. I learned that if you speak up, you get a slap, i.e. pain. So I became a people pleaser who was careful not to assert myself much unless it was safe.

At Hoover Junior High and later at Polytechnic High in SF, I didn't have many friends. My last year at Poly was pretty much a total waste as I was stoned most of the time and cut classes. I identified with the Hippy movement, and eventually moved to Haight-Ashbury.

By this time, the hippies had mostly moved away, so my girlfriend and I moved to Berkeley. After we split up, I quit college and work, and spent much of my time taking LSD, staying in the Redwoods across the Bay at Muir Woods, and basically reading spiritual books and thinking about the purpose of life. My drug experiences had confirmed my readings that I was a spiritual being, and that my body and mind were not the real me, but a vehicle that carried me, the soul. I also had a number of OBEs or out of body experiences.

Gradually my disillusionment with life brought me to a real spiritual quest to understand the meaning of life and my place in it. Everyday was part of that exciting search. I observed the cycles of life and death in the forest, the sun and moon rising and setting, the changing seasons and the stars

There was something that was causing life to go on in such an orderly way and I was determined to find it. I wasn't a religious person growing up, but somehow I always believed in God. Now the conditions and timing of my life were right, to remind me of my spiritual path.

Because of my spiritual urgency I wanted to find a teacher of the truth. I wasn't satisfied with my college education. I considered different spiritual paths by studying many teachings and scriptures. I was especially attracted to the Eastern teachings, and I wanted to become a sage or "superior man". I gradually gave up most of my possessions and began sleeping on the floor. My life at that time was a testimonial of the power of "simple living and high thinking" mixed with my past lives of spiritual practice.

When I first met the devotees during this time, I had the sense that I would become like them. I began visiting the Berkeley Temple regularly and reading Bhagavad-gita. That whole experience was very familiar to me, like dejavu, and I knew I had been a part of this path in other lives. I felt totally at home here, whereas I felt very disconnected to the "regular" world. I soon moved into the Temple with my roommate. We were both initiated by Shrila Prabhupada in August 1970.

I lived in the in the ashrama for about 15 years, traveling to India, the Far East and Australia as a pujari (priest who worships Temple Deities) and a cook, to fill different emergencies. I had many adventures as well as trails and tests which I will recount later.

Then I decided to marry and develop an occupation. It was a very difficult transition as there were no mentors or elders to show me the way. I seemed on my own, though Prabhupada and Krishna were always there helping me, and guiding me when I would listen.

Though I gained a spiritual foundation for my life living in the ashrama, I realized that I needed to work on my emotional/psychological health to become a more balanced person. We could call this "horizontal" development, as contrasted from "vertical" development which means to make progress toward our eternal identity and relationship with God. Although certainly horizontal development can be important in one's spiritual progress, just being a materially balanced person doesn't mean one has any interest or standing in spirituality.

My horizontal and vertical work continue.

I have training in many healing modalities. At present I work with my wife who is a LCSW (licensed clinical social worker) in couples therapy and in putting on workshops with personal growth themes for those on the path of Bhakti yoga.

The real healing comes from PURE spiritual practice (primarily PURE chanting and associating with saintly persons), to awaken our eternal nature as servants of God. Counseling and healing methods can be helpful in revealing anarthas (unhealthy ways of conditioned thinking) that can impede our spiritual progress. Whatever can help us in our spiritual life should be accepted. In any case all healing comes from God. We are only instruments.

Four years ago, we moved to a very rural northern North Carolina area where we live among devotee friends who share our spiritual values, some of whom are also healers.

My best guess is that I am in the last third of my life, so I teach what I have learned from my personal growth work and from practicing bhakti-yoga for almost 4 decades. In some cultures 60 is the natural age of an elder, so I am in transition to that stage of life. In that sense I have to grow up and really put into practice what I have learned, and give up my stubborn (and favorite) attachments. The older I get the more my body is a good teacher that the body is not the real means of enjoyment and satisfaction.

I find inspiration from all sincere seekers of the Truth, who are open minded and non-fanatical.

Fanaticism, whether political, ethnic, racial or religious is the real enemy of the world. Fanaticism means intolerance, breads close mindedness, non-thinking, negative stereotyping, which says to the world that "my way is the only way". I would say that this attitude is the root cause of most of the upheavals in the world.

I enjoy talking about spiritual/psychological topics, so I would love to hear from you. How has your life directed you to spiritual goals?

(I would like to make a note here that while psychedelic drugs are part of my story, I certainly don't advocate that path. Though some people like myself went on to real spiritual practices, I saw others who were permanently damaged or "burned out". I did lose a lot of brain cells in my estimation. Still Krishna is kind, and I feel I was saved in so many ways from the harsher fates I observed. Krishna is expert at using everything that happens to help us wake up.)

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Hare Krishna! PAMHO
I never miss even single article without reading of yours. Because it is very motivating in the line of Krishna consciousness and also in materiallly how to lead a simple and good life keeping the Supreme in mind.

As for your comment regarding myself, actually it is kind of prayer thought by my mother which i daily pray in fornt of Krishna. Yes you are right sometimes we bost about ourselves in both positively and negetively. I usually will never mention about my nature or qualities to people whther it is a blog or while creating email ids. But after coming to krishna consciousness i felt these are some of the qualities which a devotee should have. So i just wnated to make my prayer into my qualities so that i can go ahead in devotinal service.

Please forgive me if have done a mistake in explaing myself.

Please do comment on this
Hare Krishna

Hare Krishna
Thnks for accepting my friend's request...I will write about myself soon.

Hare Krishna! thank you for your response. it is a question i've always wanted to ask an experienced devotee. particularly one who is familiar with the psychedelics of the time.

i too, took a lot of LSD in the 60's...especially the legendary Owsley's "purple haze". and what i thought was distinct about it, was that...while tripping, there was always a heiroglyphic-like pattern in the background of my hallucinations...like some kind of strange language, that was somehow trying to tell me something.

then, many years later...i read in Satvarupa Dasa Gosvami's "Srila Prabhupada-lilamrta"...that Prabhupad was in Haight-Ashbury that year (1967) and was onstage with other notable hips and Owsley himself, with everyone chanting the Mahamantra. that blew me away, and led me to think that perhaps, THAT was what i was seeing in the background of my tripping. that somehow, the power of the mahamantra was so strong that it somehow embedded itself into the very psyche of that drug. i mean, i know that sounds crazy, but i also know that anything is possible with the Holy Names.

so i just wanted to pass that by you, and hope that it is not an offensive question to the Holy Names. have you ever experienced such a thing, or know of any others that might have, or heard about it? i know drugs are illusion, but i also know the Lord's mercy is unlimited.

thank you for your time. please accept my humble obeisances!

ps: yes, that could well be an interesting discussion in your blog. i'm very much interested in your drug experiences, and how it relates to your spiritual journey. i think others would be interested too.

Comment by Karnamrita.das
Krishna can do anything to attract us, even through what may ordinarily be unfavorable. Krishna had his eyes on you!

harekrsna
pamho
nice to see you online..
hope u r fine by krsna's mercy...?

HARIBOL!

quote of the day

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.”

i hope you are well!

Hare Krishna! all glories ti Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga!

i have many questions about your psychedelic drug days, as i also used LSD in the 60's, and feel that somehow that prepared me to accept and understand Krishna Consciousness today. but wonder if this comment thingy is too small a place to discuss it. should i email you? or is there a forum or blog for such a discussion?

Comment by Karnamrita.das
You are welcome to email me. You can do it via this site and then we can go from there. Perhaps I should write a blog about it.

HareKrishna!

Obeisances to Srila Prabhupada!

Gaura-Nitai ki jai!

Haribol!

Please accept my humblest of gratitdues for showing You mercy upon this fallen soul and adding me on Your friends list.

i hope that Lord Ramachandara has visited You on His special day and reminded You of dearest Hanuman, Shabri and Vibhishan.

Bolo Ram!

Yours humbly...Vanamali

HARIBOL MY FRIEND!

Hare Krishna Prabhu ,
Dandavats,Please shower your mercy

PAMHO Prabhuji. I see you online. I look forward to read your articles. I cannot send you a request for the friends list. Can I add you to my friends list ? thank you