Here are some very good questions someone just asked me and I would like to start a discussion about it for the benefit of everyone, and especially the person who asked.
The questions are:
How do I avoid sin?
and
What if I feel more attraction to sin, what do I do about that?
Sin, I would imagine, refers to breaking the regulative principles... for clarification, the Four Regulative Principles are:
No Meat Eating (this includes fish and eggs)
No Intoxication (this includes coffee, tea, and cigarettes)
No Gambling (this also means any kind of speculation esp. involving money)
No Illicit Sex (this means no sex at all except for the procreation of children, and then only one time a month at the most fertile time for conception, within marriage of course)
Wow, now everyone's going to get really upset at me... but that's it.... we can only try to do the best we can, right?
At least we know what the standard is....
So, that said, how do we avoid committing these sins? How do we manage not to feel attraction to these things?
Good question, eh?
I sure don't want to answer this by myself... I'd be answering it for the rest of my life it's so involved.....
Hare Krishna!!!
Hare Krishna!!!
Hare Krishna!!!
We become what we think
We had a motivational speaker come to work a while back and he made a few comments that seem to relate to this. The mind, like the body, is a creature of habit. You tend to do things because they become habit. Some of the christian groups speak of "lusting in the heart". At first you may say that you did nothing wrong, you simply thought about doing something. But the mind is a creature of habit.
What we think tends to become actions.
What we do tends to become habits.
Habits are difficult to change.
The more we think of something, the more natural it is for us to do what we think of. Consider this: you can think of Krishna all day, or look at porn all day. Which would lead you to better behavior? We do make a lot of our own opportunities in life. The more we think about sinful activities, the more we serve the body. So the more you chant, associate with devotees, read about, think about, serve Krishna, the more you will tend to become actually devotional.
It is very to say, but not always so easy to follow. But anyone coming to this site is associating with devotees, this is a good start. So we should all keep thinking of Krishna and support each other.
There is a lot of truth in the simple saying: "Chant and be happy!"
Tuka
Your belief is your belief, your path is your choice, your journey is your own, one cannot walk it with you, nor for you.
--Stanley Victor Paskavich
Thoughts To Actions
Hare Krishna, Dear Tukaram,
Thank you so much for your very wonderful comments here.
You are absolutely right.
What every we allow ourselves to be engaged in thinking about, will then turn into our activities.
Then, our activities will develop into habits.
We can either cultivate good habits, or bad habits.
The choice is ours.
I also love what you said about the truth in the simple saying:
"Chant and Be Happy" !!!
Yes, that's the bottom line of it all.... it's really that simple...
Prabhupad said that Krishna consciousness is Simple for the Simple, and Complicated for the Complicated.
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare
(thought I better do a little chanting :)
Love,
Navasi
we are magnets
we are natural magnets.so whats in our mind we attract.if your mind is filled with sinful qualities thats what will come to you.try thinking of krishna and the good qualties of a devotee.fill your mind with peace and love.it seems hard in the world, but i found a way to stay focused.i bought a stone with the word life on it.each day i hold the rock and think of a good thing in life.so everytime i look at that rock or see it the thoughts automaticly change from the false to the good.thoughts of krishna,nature,peace,love good music fill my heart and once again im a magnet for all that's god-like. try it and see what happens i say!!!! hare krishna
Automatic Thoughts
Hare Krishna, Dear Peaceofmind,
This is a very nice suggestion you're making.
It's true that our minds create automatic connections and associations with certain objects, pictures, etc..
So we can consciously create the positive associations as you have said....
We can use a picture of Prabhupad, or Krishna to accomplish this also...
For example, I am doing a very similar thing, with the picture of Srila Prabhupad I use for my photo here.
I was there standing right near where He is looking at the time this photo was taken, so it makes me feel very close to Him when I see it, and I feel His presence with me when I am here on connect by having this picture with my name here. That of course helps me to think of Him always.
Thank you for this helpful suggestion.
Love,
Navasi
The Ten Offences
Hare Krishna
bahu janma kare yadi sravana kirtana
tabhu ta na paya krsna-pade prema dhana
If one is infested with the ten offenses in the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, despite his endeavour to chant the Holy name for many births, he will not get the love of Godhead which is the ultimate goal of this chanting.
The offenses against the chanting of the Holy name are.....
1. To blaspheme the devotees who have dedicated their lives to preaching the glories of the Holy Names.
2. To consider the names of demigods like Lord Siva or Lord Brahma to be equal to or independant of the name of Lord Visnu.
3. To disobey the order of the spiritual master.
4. To blaspheme Vedic literature or literature in persuance of the Vedic version.
5. To give some interpretation on the Holy Name of the Lord.
6. To consider the glories of chanting Hare Krsna as imagination.
7. To commit sinful activities on the strength of the Holy Name.
8. To consider the chanting of Hare Krsna as one of the auspicious ritualistic activities in the Vedas as fruitive activity
( karma-kanda )
9. To instruct a faithless person about the glories of the Holy Name.
10. To not have complete faith in chanting the Holy Names and to mantain material attatchments even after understanding so many instructions on this matter.
It is also an offense to be inattentive while chanting.
Every devotee who claims to be a Vaisnava must carefully guard against these offenses in order to quickly acheive the desired success-Krsna Preme.
this Recital of the Ten Offenses against the Holy Name... is recited by the devotees in the Temple every morning.
It will also help you to avoid sin.
Hare Krishna.
This thread is like Nectar
I am getting so much out of this discussion!
I am not sure yet if I have anything to contribute except to say thank you to the wonderful devotees and the transcendental understanding they are sharing here. I see many of these flaws in myself such as the flickering determination and the wanting to chant the holy names, yet being troubled by sense gratification and impure mental thoughts.
I need to read all of these posts again. there is so much wisdom here. Hare Krishna!
Great Contribution!
That's a fantastic contribution Rebecca!
Just telling us all what you are inspired by, what is helpful to read, and what topics you'd like to see discussed more, is very helpful...
Knowing that, we can then discuss those things more and more..
So, these are things we all struggle with,
Flickering Determination...
Wanting to Chant the Holy Names (or chant more and better)
Being Troubled by Sense Gratification &
Having Impure Mental Thoughts...
Wow, if any of us had that under control we'd be Pure Devotees!
You're sure on the right track Rebecca!
I am going to start a new thread for some of these things since we're running out of room in this one now!
See how helpful you've been? : )
Love,
Navasi
A True Vegetarian
Hare Krishna
The vedas define a true vegetarian as one who eats no meat, fish, or eggs.
Those who abstain from meat but eat eggs or fish are not considered true vegetarians because they are eating flesh, even though it may be hidden, as in eggs, under a calcium coating.
One who becomes a vegetarian only to avoid killing may see no reason to refuse unfertilized eggs, but if we take the vedic view that all flesh is unfit for human consumption, it makes sense to shun eggs, which fertilized or not, are nothing but the assembled materials for the bodies of chickens.
Krishna's devotees are strict vegetarians in the Vedic sense of the word: they eat no meat, fish, or eggs.
If that horrible smell that comes from the butcher shop is not helping you to stop eating meat... and the word.. butcher.. of animals... maybe this will.....
What about cancer ?
Research over the past 20 years strongly suggests a link between meat-eating and cancer of the colon, rectum, breast and uterus.
These types of cancer are rare among those who eat little or no meat.
Chemicals ?
As soon as an animal is slaughtered, it's flesh begins to putrefy, after several days it turns a sickly grey-green colour. The meat industry masks this discoloration by adding nitrates, nitrites and other preservatives to give the meat a bright red colour.
Research has shown many of these preservatives to be carcinogenic, the massive amounts of chemicals fed to livestock makes the problem worse.
The animals are kept alive and fattened by continuous administration of tranquilizers, hormones, antibiotics, and 2,700 other drugs.
Although these drugs will be present in the meat when you eat it, the law does not require that they be listed on the package.
You may not actually be directly killing the poor animal youself, though when you puchase meat ... you are simply paying someone else to kill for you..
Sill not convinced ?
The truth of animal slaughter is not at all pleasant.... commercial slaughterhouses are like visions of hell.. ( I have seen this )..
Screaming animals are stunned by hammer blows to the head, electric shock, or concussion guns.
They are hoisted into the air by their feet and moved through the factories of death on mechanized conveyor systems. Still alive their throats are sliced and their flesh cut off while they bleed to death.
Sad.. but true.
There are soooo many more reasons to not eat meat... I hope this helps and am happy to further enlighten any interested soul.
Please puchase.. The Hare Krishna Book of Vegetarian Cooking.
( by.. Adiraja dasa )
It may help you to avoid the sin of eating meat, fish, and eggs.
Whatever you do, whatever you eat, whatever you offer or give away and whatever austerities you perform- do that as an offering to Me ( Krishna speaking to Arjuna, His dear devotee.. in Bhagavad-gita: 9.27 )
Hare Krishna
Thank you.
Thank you, Billy, for all this information about meat, etc..
I honestly cannot read it myself, it's too upsetting, but I scanned it to see if the content was relevant and helpful, and it is.
I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 (and would have been since I was 5 if my parents hadn't forced me to eat meat) :)
It's very hard for me to even comprehend that anyone would even consider killing an animal, what to speak of actually thinking that it's dead body would be some kind of food for human consumption.
When I was 5, and old enough to ask questions about these things, I asked my mother "what is this made of" (some horrid thing she was making me eat for dinner)....
She said "it's made from a cow"..... well, we had cows across the street and we used to play with them (my brothers and I) and so, of course I was shocked and horrified.
I said "you mean, cows, like the ones across the street?" !!!!
"How can you kill them, and eat them!".... I was so horrified, I couldn't believe what I was hearing.... (remember, I was 5 years old) : )
She said "well you don't think of it that way, you think of it as food"... AHHH!
I thought they were insane (and later came to find out they actually were lol).
After that, I developed a tremendous amount of "eating problems" lol lol lol
I "somehow" became only able to eat potatoes, and corn, and peas, and cheese, milk... etc... (though of course I was occasionally forced to eat other things)
LOL! Nothing like a few convenient allergies to help things along!
: )
Anyway, thanks so much for this post, for anyone who has a problem with desiring to eat animals.
Love,
Navasi
For non-vegetarians to read.. Navasi :)
Hare Krishna
took me an hour.. before I decided to write of it.... though if it helps.. even only one.. to acheive this particular regulative principle of no meat eating... then it was worth writing.
Mkdonalds even stopped selling vege burgers.. maybe they were too popular ?.. or maybe some industry did not approve ?
there is also another forum on vegetarian topics here.. is interesting also.
Hare Krishna
I wasn't aware that
I wasn't aware that McDonalds sold vegie patties. But most vegetarians I know wouldn't eat there anyway because even the fries are processed with beef tallow before being frozen and sent to the stores. (cooked in vegetable oil but processed with beef fat just isn't very vegetarian friendly)
Tuka
Your belief is your belief, your path is your choice, your journey is your own, one cannot walk it with you, nor for you.
--Stanley Victor Paskavich
Yes. :)
You're right Billy, if even one person is helped, it's worth it.
Thank you so much for spending so much of your valuable time writing it, it's very important and I appreciate your efforts here, truly....
That's interesting that McMaya :) stopped selling Vege burgers... yes, I imagine you're exactly right about the reason...
Heaven forbid everyone figures out that we have no real need of meat in our lives... what would that do to the "industry of sin"...
Sad...
Hare Krishna!
Navasi
Mc what. oh maya :)
Hare Krishna
the big mmk...the big $$$... more like it huh.
Though there is a much bigger picture of becoming vegetarian, it will reduce famine, water shortage problems... oh so many concerns of health, economics, ethics, religion...and...
Thou Shalt Not Kill... 4 words can solve so many problems !
Please remember.. you are what you eat !
Hare Krishna.
Mc$$$
Yes, Mc$$'s,
McIllusion,
McRepeated Birth and Death...
Then there's also:
Animal Kingdom King...
that's where for the small cost of a few dollars you can earn the larger cost of taking birth as a cow to be eaten yourself... for thousands of births that is. One for each hair on the body of the cow you helped to kill by eating it....
Amazing how they advertise what a bargain it all is... sure, that's a real bargain, eh?
One meal in exchange for lifetimes of suffering in the material world....
The best way to stop cow killing is to stop killing cows because then there won't be anyone taking birth as a cow to be killed in the next life.... see what I mean?
I got all inspired to talk more about this because of Rebecca's post about how she is feeling helped by reading this whole thread... :)
I'm smiling at you Rebecca! : ) (I know you're trying to convince your husband to give up meat... hope all this might help you do that girl) : )
Love,
Navasi
1 more Mc ?
Hare Krsna
Oh lets open a Hare Krishna restaurant next door to McYuk, Animal Kingdom King.. and his friend Jack...
..as Mac is not happy and never will be, Jack is Hungry and always sad, Animal Kingdom king is forever lost... then the world has a better chance for happiness !!
Food For Life... Hare Krishna
Fueling the Fire
The fire of desire is situated in heart. This desire is the desire to enjoy the temporary and thus such desire causes the soul to loose focus on the longterm soul pleasing satisfaction that sprouts as a byproduct of devotional service. Once a guest inquired from me how could they get rid or at least reduce their troublesome sex desire. In the conversation the person explained also that they would also look at pornography. I explained to them that the activity was like putting water on a fire and at the same time putting gasoline. Such activities only increase one agitation. A couple items come to mind to help one who is in such a situation. The first one I can thing of is An Idle mind is the devil's workshop perhaps you all have heard this before but it is very much true, if we don't have some good to do then generally the mind will drag one to the activities of the mode of passion and ignorance. That is one of the reasons to have good sadhana, regulated activities of devotional service, for they keep the body and the mind engaged in transcendental activities. The next item, which can be at most times be more important than the first item, is sanga association. When we association with those who have developed good qualities through the process of devotional service one becomes inspired to also obtain those qualities. One can no longer think that it is not possible to advance when examples of advancement is right before one eyes. It gives one the vision that, "I can do it, I can also surrender to Krishna" "look at the result!, this person is taking shelter of Krishna at every step and they have become an ocean of good qualities!" So association creates faith in serving and surrendering to Krishna and such surrender pleases the heart, and the satisfied heart does not become attracted to sin.
Yes.
That's very good, Nityananada Chandra, thank you.
What you said here just triggered something else in my mind... having to do with association.
I play CD's of Prabhupad chanting all the time, because I feel in the association of Prabhupad then.
If you are associating with Prabhupad, hearing the kirtans, bhajans, etc.. that He is singing, it's very hard for your mind to get absorbed in sinful thoughts.
I'm not saying it's not possible, of course, but it's certainly much more difficult in my experience.
So, if you are not chanting japa, you are working, or whatever, try to always have a kirtan playing, that's association with devotees, and if it's Prabhupad, it's The Pure Devotee.
Of course if you are in an office, then maybe you can't always play a kirtan, then you can chant japa in your mind, or play the kirtan in your mind. That goes back to what Nityananda Chandra said about not having a idle mind, keep it busy chanting also.
I don't even sleep without my CD of Prabhupad playing, when I wake up my first conscious awareness is of Prabhupad chanting.
I think it's very helpful....
Navasi
Chant, Chant and more Chant !
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare
Be humble and sincere and chant the Maha Mantra 24 hours a day if necessary... you will overcome your sins eventually.
There is no other way, there is no other way, there is no other way... especially in this age of kali yuga.
I hope it helps !!
Hare Krsna
Good Advise
Yes, that's very good Billy, that's the main thing.
There are lots of other things you can do to help also.
I'm sure they will come to mind, devotees will think of them in time... one was just occurring to me.
Contemplating the objects of the senses.
If you don't want to fall into the trap of having to satisfy your desires, then don't contemplate them.
If you think about doing these things, talk about doing them, imagine doing them in your mind, etc.. you will end up doing them.
Prabhupad talks about this....
Devotees were asking him, something like 'well, since we don't get sinful reactions for our thoughts in Kali Yuga, then does it matter if we just think sinful things' (for example thinking about having sex in your mind).....
He said (and this is not a quote, I'm just describing the concept) 'well, no there is no reaction in terms of karma, but if you think of doing it, the thought of it will then lead to acting on it'.
So, that's something to do (or rather not do) don't allow yourself to contemplate, meditate on, think about doing these things in your mind..... that will help a lot.
When the thought comes to you, replace it with a thought of Krishna. Or Prabhupad, Or Lord Chaitanya. etc...
Navasi
Lust - the greatest enemy
Very thought provoking topic Navasi. And wonderful comments from Nitayananda Candra and others. Krishna Himself says that lust is the greatest enemy of man kind. Lust for material objects leads us to sin. What is sin? It is the desire to enjoy separate from Krsna. And that is what is material means too.
By chanting with determination and with good devotee association, we can always bring Krsna into our midst so that we dont try to think separate from Him, and see His hand in everything.
Thanks again Navasi for bringing up this important topic.
Radhikesh das
i do think you have hit on a
i do think you have hit on a key point here, when you said, "it is the desire to enjoy seperately from Krishna." if we choose activities we know will please the Lord, we will receive such bliss that we can no longer conceive of doing anything else, other than what pleases the Lord. even when we falter, the Lord will recognize every sincere effort to get back up again. and the more we come back, the more we like it...until we've replaced a bad habit with a better one. after all, desire is natural to the soul. but it must be directed properly. "sin" is easily replaced by a "higher taste". we should never give up, and keep trying. beg the Lord for his help, and He will reciprocate!
Aspire
Aspire
to
Desire
to
Love
Krishna.
(thank you aspire, that's inspiring, what you wrote) :)
wow!
beautifully said! HK HK KK HH, HR HR RR HH !!!!!
Separation
Thank you, Radhikesh for your nice comments here.
Yes, you are right, it's the desire to enjoy separate from Krishna.
That's lust, that's the meaning of sin.
Doing things other than pleasing Krishna.
Well, we have some very good association here now... so:
It seems to me like there's no more excuse!!!!
LOL
: )
Navasi
Anarthas that cause unsteadiness in bhakti
I was just reading about Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura's listing of the impurities (anarthas) that cause unsteadiness in bhakti. Though this may not relate to sin directly, still I thought it will be useful to share them here. After all our impurities in heart are what causes us to sin. So here they are:
(a) utsaha-mayi: enthusiasm indicating pride. Pride in personal devotional achievements causes beginning devotees to immaturely think that they have mastered everything.
(b) ghana-tarala: moving unsteadily between diligence and negligence. Such a devotee reads scripture one day; the next he is too sleepy.
(c) vyudha-vikalpa: flickering determination. ‘Should I remain a householder or become renounced?’ ‘Should I enjoy my youth or should I practice renunciation now?’ Such persons offer quotations from sastra that confirm each choice.
(d) visaya-sangara: an ongoing struggle with sense pleasure. Seeing themselves being carried away by sense enjoyment, devotees resolve to take shelter of Krsna’s holy name. They try to be determined but their practice is intermittent and they are forced by their own nature to enjoy what they have renounced.
(e) niyamaksama: inability to improve devotional practices. ‘From now on I will chant 64 rounds’. ‘From today on, I will read a chapter of Bhagavad gita daily’. Despite such good intentions and vows, these devotees cannot increase or improve their practices.
(f) taranga-rangini: delighting in the material facilities that bhakti produces. Devotees become enamored by the small waves of position, followers and wealth in the ocean of bhakti.
Radhikesh das
Wow, this is the best information I have ever seen :)
Hare Krishna, Dear Prabhuji,
I am really surprised at the beauty of the information provided by you. This information has really touched my heart very deeply. I was just thinking about all these points yesterday and today by your mercy I have been able to read the information provided by Visvanath Thankura Himself.
I would like to ask you a lot of things here. Firstly I have not understood the last point f very well. I would like to request you to enlighten me more on that. Secondly, incase if a devotee possesses points a,c & d and a little qualities of all the remaining points also then what according to you is his future for achieving success in Krishna Consciousness. Does this mean that the devotee is extremely sinful and he will not be able to become a pure devotee in this birth itself? I know one of the solutions is to associate with devotees, but what if the devotee who possesses the above qualities does not have a temple next to him and thus cannot associate with devotees all his life. Since he cannot associate with devotees it is very natural that the above qualities possessed by him can become the biggest obstacle for his determination in Krishna Consciousness.
Can you please be kind enough in providing a solution for the above problem ?
Your Servant,
Mihir.
taranga rangini
Haribol Mihir. This is directly from a translation of Madhurya Kadambini:
"In describing the nature of bhakti it is said that everyone is attracted towards the reservoir of bhakti, the devotee. The devotee himself becomes a treasure-house of good qualities and mercy. These characteristics attract people who, in turn, crown the devotee with wealth, adoration, distinction and position. Although these accolades come to him as by-products of bhakti they nevertheless may stunt the spontaneous growth of the creeper of devotion if he uses them for his self-aggrandizement. Taranga means “waves” and rangini means “play”. Therefore, in the vast unlimited ocean of bhakti these by-products are waves that create tempests in devotional life."
So one should be careful and not be enamored by praise from others thinking that one has become a great devotee.
Radhikesh das
Impurities
Haribol Mihir. As for your other question what happens if one has such and such impurities, the solution is to engage in hearing, chanting and remembering Krishna. Bhagavatam says 'srnvatam sva katha krsna, punya sravana kirtana, hrdyantah stah hi abhadrani, vidhunoti suhrt satam' (SB 1.2.17). When one eagerly hears and chants about Krishna, Krsna situated in one's heart cleanses desire for material enjoyment.
So instead of obesessing over our impurities, we should honestly understand we have them and sincerely try and endeavor to hear and chant about Krishna. Then Krishna will work miracles to cleanse our heart. Of course, this does not mean we continue with accumulating sins thinking we can hear and chant about Krsna, and He will do the rest. With such an attitude we cannot hear and chant about Krsna properly. Srila Prabhupada's wonderful purport to the last verse of chapter 3 of 1st canto of Bhagavatam explains this most beautifully.
Radhikesh das
Forced Enjoyment
Hare Krishna, Dear Prabhuji,
Thank you for your reply. You said that after we start hearing, chanting and remembering Krishna we should stop our sinful activities otherwise we cannot hear and chant about Krishna properly. However there are some enjoyments which we just cannot stop and it is like as if our mind forces us to do it. Due to this it is very difficult to stop our sinful acitivities. In such a case will chanting, hearing and remembering Krishna help us ? Secondly, you also said that all the annarthas that you listed are said to create unsteadiness in bhakti. This means that it will create unsteadiness in hearing, chanting and remembering. Can you please tell me whether it is ok if we are unsteady in the beginning or there is some solution to this ?
ys,
Mihir.
Krishna helps us
Bhagavatam says 'srnvatam sva katha krsna, punya sravana kirtana, hrdyantah stah hi abhadrani, vidhunoti suhrt satam' (SB 1.2.17). When one eagerly hears and chants about Krishna, Krsna situated in one's heart cleanses desire for material enjoyment.
When one has developed the urge to hear and chant about Krsna, He cleanses desire for material enjoyment.
There cannot be an endorsement from someone to say it is ok to be unsteady in the beginning. Most of us are that way - unsteady (I should not say most of us...at least I am that way). The solution to this is as I said is not to be obsessed with it - 'Oh I am having this impurity' and sweating over it day and night without taking steps to correct it - to hear and chant about Krsna. One should follow the three R's - to Reflect over our impurity; to Regret it; to Reform it. There are some who would not go beyond reflecting it and regretting it again and again and again. This is simply another side of sense gratification - to think of us as the center - 'how good I am, that I am constantly regretting my mistakes'. Prabhupada said as soon as we think 'I am' for whatever reason, it is sense gratification.
So by taking shelter of Krsna, one can overcome this tendency to think of us as the enjoyer or in this case the sufferer. The solution is clearly given: develop the urge to hear and chant about Krsna, and not think of reasons why we cannot do that.
Radhikesh das
Perfect Solution :)
Hare Krishna, Dear Prabhuji,
Finally after your wonderful guidance I have got the determinaition and enthusiam once again to progress in Krishna Consciousness. After your valuable guidance I have now decided to declare a war against material energy and force my mind to concentrate on chanting, hearing and remembering. I am just scared of being unsteady but I will try my best to force my mind. Thank you very much for your guidance.
ys,
Mihir.
Great Questions
Hare Krishna, Dear Mihir,
I just want to say that I think these are very excellent questions you are asking of Radhikesh prabhu, and I am so interested to read his answers also. :)
Love,
Navasi
Thank you so much for your encouragement :)
Dear Mataji, Hare Krishna,
Thank you so much for your encouragement mataji. Since this forum is a fantastic opportunity to ask questions to devotees and learn more about Krishna Consciousness I am trying my best to make full use of it. Thank you once again.
ys,
Mihir.
Amazing!
Thank you so much, Dear Radhikesh Prabhu,
This is all really helpful and enlightening.
Wonderful.
thank you.
Navasi
wow very enlightening
thank you for sharing, what is the name of the book? Is it his Bhagavad Gita commentary?
ys
ncd
Madhurya Kadambini
Haribol Prabhu. It is from Madhurya Kadambini. I read these points, however, from 'Unveiling His lotus feet' by Bhurijana Prabhu, who quotes the book when discussing chapter 2 of first canto of Bhagavata Purana.
Your servant
Radhikesh das
Thank you wonderful, I am planning on getting that book
I am currently reading his Bhagavad Gita Study Guide "As They Surrender Unto Me"
This is really a very good book
Even I am planning to get it.
ys
Mihir.
Best Laid Plans
"Best laid plans of mice and men to oft go astray"
LOL!
Now, Mihir, before you get upset at me, please realize I am only joking because of reading about all the "plans" everyone has to get the book....
"It's just a joke, and only a joke"...
"if it were serious you would have received further instructions" etc... lol
Silly Navasi : )
(no one knows what I'm talking about I bet... I wonder if I do)
: )
Best Plans :)
Since you said no one might understand what you meant I will first try to explain everyone what this means. It means that the plans of men are no more secure than those of the mouse and no matter how carefully things are planned, something may still go wrong with it.
Well I completely agree with you mataji. Atleast beginners like me might face obstacles in every plan we make to progress in Krishna Consciousness because we are completely under the dictation of the law of karma. Our past habbits for millions of years is a real problem that we need to deal with. For that reason I am completely dependent on the mercy of Krishna and His devotees as I belive where there is will there is a way. :)
So I completely agree with you mataji
The best-laid plans of mice and men Gang aft agley (=often go wrong).
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Mihir
Understanding!
Hare Krishna, Dear Mihir,
Well, you have certainly understood perfectly!
I'm so thrilled! I guess I'm more understandable than I thought I was! Wow, this is so nice, you've not only understood, but you've explained and elaborated!
I'm impressed!
Hare Krishna! : )
Love,
Happy To Be Understood,
Navasi
Also :)
I agree completely with the other saying too:
"where there's a will there's a way"
amazing how many things are common sayings and understandings between India and America, and from one generation to another,
since you and I seem to have quite a bit of common understanding Mihir.
Hare Krishna,
Hare Rama....
Navasi
Krishna will help us & substitute sin with His beauty
It is my opinion that Krishna can help us, if we begin to look toward Him and chant His name He can help us overcome bad habits. Sometimes a bad habit can be replaced by something good, relating to Krishna.
I would like to share one experience I have recently had. I desire to stop eating meat and am cutting down on the other bad things in my diet also. My husband is also interested in eating less meat, but he still likes the beef and stuff once in a while. So what I have been doing, instead of a hamburger I have been making nice veggie burgers for us and they are SO good. But it was Krishna, I think, who inspired me to make this change.
I am trying to stop the sin of wasting my time and my mind on things that are vapid and worldly. So instead of surfing the Internet I am turning to this wonderful site.
There are so many wonderful things of Krishna to replace our sin. That is the good part. It is hard to give up sin but look what we will get in return! It is so much better.